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  MAX CAVALERO TALKS TO ROCKOVERDOSE.GR ABOUT 'SAVAGES', SOULFLY AND SEPULTURA
21st August 2013

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Zisis Petkanas from the Greek webzine Rock Overdose, talked with Max Calavera (SOULFLY, CAVALERA CONSPIRACY, ex-SEPULTURA, ex-NAILBOMB), about the new SOULFLY album 'Savages', the band's future plans, his feelings about SEPULTURA and many more things.

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RockOverdose.gr: Max welcome to warm Greece and on Rock Overdose. How are you?

Max: Fine. How are you?

RockOverdose.gr: Fine. Despite the fact that we have an enormous economical crisis, we are ok. So we have an upcoming SOULFLY album, called 'Savages', to be released in October. What should the fans expect from this release and how it is different than the previous one?

Max: It's a little bit different. 'Savages' is a combination. Half is a continuation of 'Enslaved' with extreme metal, some if it even death metal and the other half is more traditional, more old SOULFLY, more groove, like the first album, like 'Eye for an Eye', 'Tribe', 'No Hope = No Fear' kind of stuff. The first single is 'Bloodshed'. My son Igor sings on it with me... I think it's a killer song, killer groove and very heave and intense, very catchy, I'm really happy with this song. The album is full of good surprises... very good collaborations with CLUTCH, NAPALM DEATH, I DECLARE WAR. There's a song in Portuguese and Spanish, it's called 'El Comegente', with me and Tony (Campos) singing. Overall is a very strong record, songs are long, 5-6 minutes, full of guitar solos, everything heavy metal is about, a classic metal record. I am very happy I made this kind of record. I wanted to make a record like this for a long time and I was able to do it. Terry did a great job producing the album, he is a master in producing and it was good recording with him and I'm very pleased with the album. I think the fans will really love 'Savages'. It's an album for a SOULFLY fan I think.

RockOverdose.gr: So it's a combination of old SOULFLY stuff and new elements.

Max: Lots of new elements and there is also the same good SOULFLY stuff on it and some stuff a little bit like 'Enslaved', like death metal... a good combination.

RockOverdose.gr: Why did you call the album 'Savages'? Is it somehow connected with the current instability worldwide?

Max: Yeah it's a about the world itself, about the humans, about the human condition. How we are sold in technology, internet, media and in the same time, killing people, monstrosities. I think in the end of the day, we are savages and that's why it's called 'Savages'. On the other flip of the coin, I think 'Savages' is also beautiful. It's a primitive state of man and savage can be very beautiful. So we get both sides, the ugly side and the beautiful side of being a savage. I kind of let the fans decide which side they want it to be. I'm very happy with the album cover, it's a very strong skull with some tattoo marks and it's very in your face old school looking. Very metal, like an 80's album cover, like IRON MAIDEN, BLACK SABBATH. I think it's a very heavy metal cover and I love it.

RockOverdose.gr: You sound very enthusiastic about your new album and we're looking forward for people to listen to it and tell their opinion. You said you have some participations, like Neil Fallon from CLUTCH and Mitch Harris from NAPALM DEATH. How did this cooperation happened and how the feeling is with these guests?

Max: It was great. Neil is a friend a long time, we toured with them in the SEPULTURA days. I love CLUTCH, I love Neil's voice, I thought it would be great to do a metal song with him. I had this riff, this cowboy riff, we never did something like it and it was Neil territory for us and we called the song 'Ayatollah of Rock 'N' Rolla', which is from Mad Max. Very very crazy title and I like it a lot. I think it's very unique and it was great. Then we had Mitch from NAPALM DEATH in another song. I love Mitch's voice. He's doingall the high pitched screams in NAPALM DEATH and it's great and it was great to have Mitch singing a song with me. We called it 'K.C.S.' and it's a very heavy song and I share it with Mitch. We had one line each, going back and forth. Mitch was in the studio when we were recording and we asked him to sing in the song, he decided to do it and it was nice and really cool. Also there's one more song called 'Fallen' with Jamie from I DECLARE WAR. They are one of my favorite new bands and I listen to a lot of death metal, deathcore kind of bands. They are very great, very heavy, Jamie does brutal vocals. I gave him 'Fallen' because it's the more death metal song in the album. This song could be on 'Enslaved' for sure. Completely made like that. I'm very happy, I picked very different guests, NAPALM DEATH, CLUTCH and I DECLARE WAR are completely different with each other, from different eras, with different voices and I think that's the good way. That's the way SOULFLY is about. It's about different vocals, different ideas, different vibes and at the end of the day, this makes the record stronger. I think the vocalists are making the album stronger, because of what they did on the record.

RockOverdose.gr: In 'Bloodshed', your son, Igor Cavalera, takes part with you on vocals, right?

Max: Yeah he did the chorus and a little bit after that. He has this really good punk rock voice and when I did the song, I thought it would be great to have Igor's voice here with me. I called him and he went in the studio to lay down the vocals and it was a great idea. I think it turned out really good in the end.

RockOverdose.gr: I believe that you are very proud of him as a father.

Max: Zyon did the drums in the whole record, Igor's vocals on 'Bloodshed', it was really good to have them involved, we are a metal family, we have music in the house all the time and when I'm taking them on tour with me, they see no different, because they are raised on the road and they are playing music as well. It was good to have them on the record with me, for me as a father, these are very proud moments.

RockOverdose.gr: This time you had the luxury to work the songs at home with Zyon. How did that affect the whole recording process? What was the experience like to work the drums with your son?

Max: I think it made the album more prepared. I love all the other SOULFLY records. I think all of them are very strong. I had more time to prepare for 'Savages', because I had the chance to jam with Zyon at home. I was creating riffs in the morning and we jammed with Zyon in the afternoon, creating songs and recording them, putting them in order, finding out which ones are the strongest, which ones we felt that could really make an impact on the album. The process took about 2 months, jamming with Zyon for 2 months at home and when we entered the studio, we were really prepared, really tight. I was really prepared for this album and he knew exactly what to do. He knew every song by heart and it took him only 3 days to do the drums for the whole record, quite amazing.

RockOverdose.gr: Max, being yourself a riff master, who do you consider to be the biggest riff master in the universe and the biggest influence to you?

Max: My favorite is Tony Iommi. He created the best riffs in metal I think. Chuck Shuldiner from DEATH, wrote great riffs. Of course James Hetfield, early METALLICA was great. Dino from FEAR FACTORY is really great. I consider myself a riffman. I just do riffs, I don't do solos, that's what I like to do. I like to write riffs. I spend hours writing riffs at home. I use some of them in SOULFLY records and some of them in CAVALERA CONSPIRACY records. To me, it's pleasure writing riffs. It's fun to do it. I started a long time ago, when I got my guitar. It was me, the guitar and a 4 track machine and we created this music at home. It was a very good experience.

RockOverdose.gr: Let's go to CAVALERA CONSPIRACY and NAILBOMB. Are any future plans for these bands?

Max: Next year we will do a new record with Igor for CAVALERA CONSPIRACY. It's the 3rd album, I think it's going to be very strong, I wish to make a very fast album. I want Igor to play fast like 'Arise'.

RockOverdose.gr: So with CAVALERA CONSPIRACY, you show a side of your secret desires in music?

Max: Yes it's less complicated, the songs are not so long, they are shorter and I like the more brutal kind of metal that me and Igor are playing. That's what I like to explore in CAVALERA CONSPIRACY. The brothers playing metal and for me the golden era for me and Igor, is 'Beneath The Remains' and 'Arise'. I could say 'Chaos AD', but it's mostly 'Arise' and I like to be more in this area of fast. Igor is great when he plays fast, he's amazing and powerful and I can create the best riffs with him, like 'Inflikted' and stuff like that. We are going to continue that and hopefully it's going to be a very powerful record.

RockOverdose.gr: So talking about the first SEPULTURA period, which was really great and my favorite personally, is there something in the back of your mind for this band, or should we forget it?

Max: I have good memories from SEPULTURA, I created the band, I named the band, I started it years before Andreas and Paulo were in it. I created the band with Igor and we took it very far, we went against the world, we were considered the worse band in our city when we started, we took it very far. Until 'Roots'. I'm very proud for the work I did, but life is strange and full of turns and I believe that I was meant to create something new.

RockOverdose.gr: It's very sad that you created a great band and you are no longer a part of it. We are all sad about it. I was a big SEPULTURA fan.

Max: Yeah it's sad. I myself, sometimes think about it, why did this have to happen, but on the other hand, something very good happened to me, SOULFLY surviving. Most musicians that play in a successful band and they try to do something else, doesn't work, it fails. The fact that SOULFLY has survived and achieved this success around the world and have many fanatic fans and the fans are very expressive, they have SOULFLY tattoos and stuff, when they come and tell me that my music changed their lives, that's a big thing and I take it very seriously. When they say it to me, I'm thinking that I must be doing something right. I think SOULFLY is my salvation, they saved me, because when I quit SEPULTURA, it wa the hardest time of my life, the hardest moment, I didn't know what to do, I stopped playing music for six months, doing nothing, I was like what am I going to do with my life. SOULFLY saved me. The first album is a very strong album. It put me back on the map, rebuilt the trust with my fans again, showed that I could do something else outside of SEPULTURA, something powerful and now I have nine albums with SOULFLY, which is more than what I did with SEPULTURA.

RockOverdose.gr: Your country, Brazil, will organize both World Cup and the Olympic Games this year. Do you think that this will positive for your country, because in Greece we had major problems after this.

Max: In Brazil there are a lot of problems. A lot of protests. I don't know if you've seen it on the internet or TV. There are a lot of people, even young people, going out on the street, confronting the police and I have made a message here for the Brazilian people on the internet that had a lot of views, which is great, encouraging them to go and protest, go on the street. I myself, thing that it's too much to have 2 things to do. Maybe it would be better to do only one and do the Olympics maybe ten years from now. Not together like this. I think it's too much to handle. World Cup is huge. It's a worldwide event. You have to be a good host, because people will come from around the world to see this thing and they will have to feel safe. Brazil is not safe. It's very dangerous, they will have to do something about it and see what happens.

RockOverdose.gr: Several years ago, you visited Greece, in Athens and Thessaloniki. What do you think of the audience and the country in general? Are you going to come over in Greece again?

Max: I will come again. I think we have a European tour in March. It's gonna be a big European tour with DEVILDRIVER, co-headlining with them and I hope that will come again in Greece. I have great memories from Greece, I love the Greek crowd, I think it's an amazing crowd, very energetic, very passionate, very loud, full of energy and I think it's a beautiful country. It's beautiful to see the sites and the Acropolis and Thessaloniki and the drive is beautiful inside the country. We drove and saw all the beautiful houses and the blue water... very very beautiful. I actually told my wife that I like to buy a house in Greece one day and live in Greece. It's a great place to write music, it's beautiful. We talked a lot of times with my wife about the possibility of this to actually happen. It's not very far from reality. I hope one day we'll find a place in Greece and I can spend some time there and some time back in America.

RockOverdose.gr: So you travelled around the world and you hope that if you want some place to stay it's gong to be Greece.

Max: Yeah! I really love to.

RockOverdose.gr: Maybe Greek people are a lot like the Brazilians in attitude?

Max: Yes I think they are similar. It would be a great thing to do in the future.

RockOverdose.gr: What is the message that you like to leave to your Greek fans?

Max: The message is thank you, I hope they like 'Savages', it's coming out in October, I really enjoyed making the record, it's a special record, my first record with Nuclear Blast, a new label, a new beginning for me and I want to thank my fans for supporting me and following me through the years. I hope to see everybody in March in the big European tour and I hope Greece will be included in this tour, so we can bring our music to our fans. Thank you very much.

RockOverdose.gr: When the new video is going to be released? Do you have a release date?

Max: Probably in a month. It's being filmed right now and they have to put all the pieces together. I believe that it will be ready in a month for all the channels and for the people to find it.

RockOverdose.gr: Max thank you very much for this interview. Is there anything that we forgot to say? Any news to reveal?

Max: No, thank you man and I hope to see you in Greece.

RockOverdose.gr: Me too. And drink a lot of ouzo and beers!

Max: Yes! Alright!



For RockOverdose.gr: Zisis Petkanas








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"We've managed to chop the old song in half, cut away all the excess fat and produce a 6 minute rowdy riff roller-coaster that will surely find a home in the heavier side of our live show..."

the dead daisies THE DEAD DAISIES RELEASE 'THE FACE I LOVE' VIDEO
Get a look at the title track of the new EP here. A new album will follow in 2015...

primordial PRIMORDIAL ANNOUNCE UK DATES IN FEBRUARY 2015
There will also be an album launch in Dublin in November for 'Where Greater Men Have Fallen'...

protokult SING ALONG TO 'GET ME A BEER!' LYRIC VIDEO BY PROG FOLK METALLERS PROTOKUL
"For those of you who can't understand what the hell Martin is spewing, now is your chance to sing along! Get yourself a cold one and enjoy!"...

whitesnake WHITESNAKE ANNOUNCE NEW LIVE DVD/CD WITH CLASSIC AND RARE PERFORMANCES
"It's still hard for me to find the words when remembering that half the incredible band who originally recorded the 'Slide It In' album with me have passed away," says Coverdale...

metal church VOCALIST RONNY MUNROE QUITS METAL CHURCH
The band posted a statement on their official Facebook page assuring fans that the band is alive and well and that "big announcements" are expected soon...

bloodbath BLOODBATH STREAM FIRST NEW TRACK FEATURING NICK HOLMES AND REVEAL ALBUM TRACKLISTING
Sweden's masters of horror Bloodbath are set to release their fourth album of supreme death Metal, 'Grand Morbid Funeral', on 17th November 2014...

ac/dc AC/DC ANNOUNCE NEW ALBUM, 'ROCK OR BUST', AND CONFIRM DEPARTURE OF MALCOLM YOUNG
AC/DC have announced details of their 17th studio album, their first for six years and their first ever not to feature Malcolm...

lordi LORDI RELEASE FIRST SINGLE FROM NEW ALBUM 'SCARE FORCE ONE'
Tour dates to follow for the Finnish sensations. "The overall sound of the band is more modern this time, and we've tried out some new tricks here and there..."

bloodstock CANNIBAL CORPSE WILL PLAY AN EXCLUSIVE UK SHOW AT BLOODSTOCK 2015
Cannibal Corpse, Sepultura and Ihsahn join the line-up that also includes Within Temptation and Opeth...

helix HELIX ANNOUNCE TOUR OF EUROPE
This will be the first Euro tour for Helix since heading out with Kiss and Ian Gillan in the 1980s...

threshold THRESHOLD DISCUSS HOW THEY FOUND THE NEW ALBUM ARTWORK ON THE INTERNET
Damian Wilson and Richard West discuss Threshold's new album 'For The Journey', out today...

quireboys THE QUIREBOYS RELEASE 'THIS IS ROCK N ROLL II' IN ADVANCE OF NOVEMBER TOUR
Re-packaged, re-styled and with 4 bonus tracks, the rare 2001 classic from The Quireboys will be available on 23rd October...

gwar GWAR REVEAL TWO NEW MEMBERS - BLÓTHAR AND VULVATRON
Meet the latest warriors to don the latex and styrofoam and join the intergalactic crew for Gwar's "Eternal" tour...

fear factory FEAR FACTORY SIGN TO NUCLEAR BLAST ENTERTAINMENT
The journey continues for one of the groundbreaking Metal bands of our time, with new material to be released in 2015...

tank TANK BEGIN WORK ON NEW ALBUM; BAND CONFIRMED FOR BANG YOUR HEAD
The band are scheduled to enter the studio in November with a release planned for early February...

blitzallica DIAMOND HEAD TO HEADLINE COUNTY DURHAM'S BLITZALLICA IN OCTOBER
Plus legendary Metal party band Dumpy's Rusty Nuts and old favorites Holosade who are reforming especially for this headbanging estravaganza...

saille SAILLE COMMENT ON FORTHCOMING THIRD ALBUM
"'Eldritch' differs quite a bit from our two previous albums," keyboardist Dries Gaerdelen says...

winger WINGER RELEASE VIDEO FOR 'BETTER DAYS COMIN'
Winger have released a new music video - the title track from their Billboard chart breaking album...

voodoo six VOODOO SIX ANNOUNCE SIX HEADLINE SHOWS IN EUROPE
This Autumn, Voodoo Six will play six headline shows in Germany, Belgium, and The Netherlands...

michael schenker MICHAEL SCHENKER ANNOUNCES DECEMBER UK TOUR
Schenker will perform songs from the new album, which features the new single, 'Lord Of The Lost And Lonely' plus all the classics...

johnny thunders LOOKING FOR JOHNNY: THE LEGEND OF JOHNNY THUNDERS MOVIE TO BE RELEASED NEXT MONTH
When Johnny Thunders died in New Orleans on April 23rd 1991, he left behind a mystery...

metallica METALLICA TO RELEASE 27 LIVE ALBUMS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR AND APPEAR IN THE GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS
To commemorate the anniversary of the LiveMetallica.com site, the band are offering CDs and LPs of every gig they played in 2014...

kobra and the lotus KOBRA AND THE LOTUS AND THE TREATMENT ANNOUNCE UK TOURS
Kobra And The Lotus will be kicking off their Headline Tour on 24th September in support of their latest record 'High Priestess'...

rival sons RIVAL SONS RETURN TO UK FOR DECEMBER TOUR
The band appear on Letterman in the US on October 9th, and will have an exciting UK TV appearance to announce soon...

linkin park LINKIN PARK PLAY TWO NIGHTS AT LONDON'S 02 ARENA IN NOVEMBER
Following their exhilarating headline sets at the European summer festivals, Linkin Park return for their own headline tour in November...

evil scraecrow AT LAST! A NEW VIDEO FROM EVIL SCARECROW
"It's an emotional thing for us to watch back. We hope that translates to everyone that watches it too!"

sabctuary SANCTUARY POSTS LYRIC VIDEO FOR 'EXITIUM (ANTHEM OF THE LIVING)'
Sanctuary continue that legacy that they started decades ago, delivering yet another fresh take on "classic-sounding" Metal...

electric mary ELECTRIC MARY ANNOUNCE MINI ALBUM AND UK TOUR
Australian five piece Electric Mary are back to spread Rock n' Roll's genuine flavour to Europe...

accept ACCEPT REVEAL LIVE CLIP OF 'PANDEMIC' FILMED IN FRONT OF 750,000 PEOPLE AT WOODSTOCK FESTIVAL 2014
UK fans can catch the band live at The Forum in London on the 27th November 2014...

hornet HORNET ANNOUNCE NEW EP AND SINGLE
"We really wanted to just expand the sound we already had by incorporating more of our influences to make our sound more modern and diverse..."

jimmy barnes JIMMY BARNES ANNOUNCES NEW 30th ANNIVERSARY ALBUM 'HINDSIGHT'
2014 marks the 30th anniversary of Jimmy Barnes' debut as Scottish born Australian rock singer-songwriter...

dragonforce DRAGONFORCE SUPPORTS ANNOUNCED FOR FORTHCOMING TOUR
London based hard rockers Neonfly will support in the UK mainland, with Northern Irish Metalheads Conjuring Fate doing the honours at the Belfast and Dublin shows...

within temptation WITHIN TEMPTATION TO HEADLINE BLOODSTOCK 2015
Within Temptation appear as a UK exclusive. Prog Metal titans Opeth will also appear on the bill...

emigrate EMIGRATE CONFIRM NEW ALBUM FOR UK RELEASE VIA SPINEFARM RECORDS
'Silent So Long' is the second album from the band formed by Rammstein's Richard Kruspe...

highway to hell WINNERS OF HIGHWAY TO HELL 5 ANNOUNCED
Texas Flood are the overall winners from an outstanding field, winning a contract and an appearance at Hard Rock Hell...

grim reaper THE LEGENDARY GRIM REAPER RETURN TO LONDON
Get down to the Boston Music Room on 27th September for Grim Reaper with Amulet and Dark Forest...

quireboys THE QUIREBOYS ANNOUNCE UK TOUR FOR NOVEMBER 2014
The 30th anniversary celebrations continue with a world tour including a trip to North America and a nine date UK leg...

eric martin MR. BIG SINGER ANNOUNCES UK SOLO ACOUSTIC TOUR
Eric Martin will play nine unplugged dates in December 2014 with a mix of solo and Mr Big material...

absolva ABSOLVA ANNOUNCE NEW BASSIST
British classic Metallers Absolva are delighted to announce the appointment of new bassist Karl Schramm...

manowar MANOWAR ANNOUNCE NEW ALBUM PLANS AND UPDATED TOURING SCHEDULE
Manowar will headline Loud Park Festival in Tokyo on October 18th 2014 and will then resume the 'Kings Of Metal MMXIV' World Tour...

skyscraper SKYSCRAPER RELEASE VIDEO FOR 'MONDAY MORNING'
This dynamic band has been taking critics by storm with their inimitable brand of melodic hard rock...

the more i see THE MORE I SEE ANNOUNCE OCT/NOV TOUR WITH SAVAGE MESSIAH AND BULL RIFF STAMPEDE
Featuring world renowned guitarist Gizz Butt, the band always deliver incredible live shows that combine passion, energy and breathtaking musicianship...

devin townsend DEVIN TOWNSEND REVEALS Zē DETAILS AND ANNOUNCES SPECIAL ROYAL ALBERT HALL PERFORMANCE
Devin Townsend is extremely pleased to announce the release of long-awaited new double-album...

blastfest AT THE GATES, DARK FUNERAL, ROTTING CHRIST AND MORE ANNOUNCED FOR BLASTFEST 2015
Bergen, Norway, former home of the legendary Hole In The Sky Festival and considered thee black metal capital of the world...

exodus EXODUS REVEAL SPECIAL GUESTS ON NEW ALBUM 'BLOOD IN, BLOOD OUT'
Bay Area thrash Metal provocateurs Exodus proudly announce the special guests appearing on their latest showcase of unrefined rage...

panzer PANZER STREAMING LYRIC VIDEO FOR 'THE LAST MAN ON EARTH'
Brazilian thrash/stoner act Panzer have just released a new lyric video on for the second track of the album 'Honor'...

bush BUSH ANNOUNCE OCTOBER 20th RELEASE FOR 'MAN ON THE RUN'
Multi-platinum alt-rock band Bush have announced an October 20th release date for their highly anticipated new album...

absolva ABSOLVA RELEASE VIDEO FOR 'LIVE FOR THE FIGHT'
The video features Luke Appleton (Iced Earth) who is playing bass for the band on the forthcoming European Tour...

giants of rock GIANTS OF ROCK FESTIVAL: FIRST BANDS ANNOUNCED
The reformed Family and pomp rockers Magnum will headline the event...

weapon uk ESTRELLA TO SUPPORT GILBY CLARKE ON TOUR AND ANNOUNCE A NEW SINGLE
The band are currently gearing up for a thirteen date trek with Clarke that includes dates in Wakefield, London and Edinburgh...

weapon uk WEAPON UK ANNOUNCE TOUR DATES FOR NOVEMBER
Weapon UK have tour dates confirmed in support of their critically acclaimed album 'Rising From The Ashes'...

amulet AMULET DEBUT ALBUM 'THE FIRST' RELEASED IN SEPTEMBER: FIRST TRACK NOW ONLINE
The album track 'Mark Of Evil' has just been uploaded to Soundcloud. Raise your fists and bang your heads on this one...

michael schenker MICHAEL SCHENKER'S GUITARS STOLEN FROM GERMAN RECORDING STUDIO
German police are examining evidence and the studio for fingerprints and DNA evidence to help catch the criminals...

jimi jamison JIMI JAMISON OF SURVIVOR PASSES AWAY AGED 63
Jimi Jamison, lead singer of Survivor, very sadly passed away on Sunday night...

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