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  MAX CAVALERO TALKS TO ROCKOVERDOSE.GR ABOUT 'SAVAGES', SOULFLY AND SEPULTURA
21st August 2013

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Zisis Petkanas from the Greek webzine Rock Overdose, talked with Max Calavera (SOULFLY, CAVALERA CONSPIRACY, ex-SEPULTURA, ex-NAILBOMB), about the new SOULFLY album 'Savages', the band's future plans, his feelings about SEPULTURA and many more things.

You can read the whole interview below:

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RockOverdose.gr: Max welcome to warm Greece and on Rock Overdose. How are you?

Max: Fine. How are you?

RockOverdose.gr: Fine. Despite the fact that we have an enormous economical crisis, we are ok. So we have an upcoming SOULFLY album, called 'Savages', to be released in October. What should the fans expect from this release and how it is different than the previous one?

Max: It's a little bit different. 'Savages' is a combination. Half is a continuation of 'Enslaved' with extreme metal, some if it even death metal and the other half is more traditional, more old SOULFLY, more groove, like the first album, like 'Eye for an Eye', 'Tribe', 'No Hope = No Fear' kind of stuff. The first single is 'Bloodshed'. My son Igor sings on it with me... I think it's a killer song, killer groove and very heave and intense, very catchy, I'm really happy with this song. The album is full of good surprises... very good collaborations with CLUTCH, NAPALM DEATH, I DECLARE WAR. There's a song in Portuguese and Spanish, it's called 'El Comegente', with me and Tony (Campos) singing. Overall is a very strong record, songs are long, 5-6 minutes, full of guitar solos, everything heavy metal is about, a classic metal record. I am very happy I made this kind of record. I wanted to make a record like this for a long time and I was able to do it. Terry did a great job producing the album, he is a master in producing and it was good recording with him and I'm very pleased with the album. I think the fans will really love 'Savages'. It's an album for a SOULFLY fan I think.

RockOverdose.gr: So it's a combination of old SOULFLY stuff and new elements.

Max: Lots of new elements and there is also the same good SOULFLY stuff on it and some stuff a little bit like 'Enslaved', like death metal... a good combination.

RockOverdose.gr: Why did you call the album 'Savages'? Is it somehow connected with the current instability worldwide?

Max: Yeah it's a about the world itself, about the humans, about the human condition. How we are sold in technology, internet, media and in the same time, killing people, monstrosities. I think in the end of the day, we are savages and that's why it's called 'Savages'. On the other flip of the coin, I think 'Savages' is also beautiful. It's a primitive state of man and savage can be very beautiful. So we get both sides, the ugly side and the beautiful side of being a savage. I kind of let the fans decide which side they want it to be. I'm very happy with the album cover, it's a very strong skull with some tattoo marks and it's very in your face old school looking. Very metal, like an 80's album cover, like IRON MAIDEN, BLACK SABBATH. I think it's a very heavy metal cover and I love it.

RockOverdose.gr: You sound very enthusiastic about your new album and we're looking forward for people to listen to it and tell their opinion. You said you have some participations, like Neil Fallon from CLUTCH and Mitch Harris from NAPALM DEATH. How did this cooperation happened and how the feeling is with these guests?

Max: It was great. Neil is a friend a long time, we toured with them in the SEPULTURA days. I love CLUTCH, I love Neil's voice, I thought it would be great to do a metal song with him. I had this riff, this cowboy riff, we never did something like it and it was Neil territory for us and we called the song 'Ayatollah of Rock 'N' Rolla', which is from Mad Max. Very very crazy title and I like it a lot. I think it's very unique and it was great. Then we had Mitch from NAPALM DEATH in another song. I love Mitch's voice. He's doingall the high pitched screams in NAPALM DEATH and it's great and it was great to have Mitch singing a song with me. We called it 'K.C.S.' and it's a very heavy song and I share it with Mitch. We had one line each, going back and forth. Mitch was in the studio when we were recording and we asked him to sing in the song, he decided to do it and it was nice and really cool. Also there's one more song called 'Fallen' with Jamie from I DECLARE WAR. They are one of my favorite new bands and I listen to a lot of death metal, deathcore kind of bands. They are very great, very heavy, Jamie does brutal vocals. I gave him 'Fallen' because it's the more death metal song in the album. This song could be on 'Enslaved' for sure. Completely made like that. I'm very happy, I picked very different guests, NAPALM DEATH, CLUTCH and I DECLARE WAR are completely different with each other, from different eras, with different voices and I think that's the good way. That's the way SOULFLY is about. It's about different vocals, different ideas, different vibes and at the end of the day, this makes the record stronger. I think the vocalists are making the album stronger, because of what they did on the record.

RockOverdose.gr: In 'Bloodshed', your son, Igor Cavalera, takes part with you on vocals, right?

Max: Yeah he did the chorus and a little bit after that. He has this really good punk rock voice and when I did the song, I thought it would be great to have Igor's voice here with me. I called him and he went in the studio to lay down the vocals and it was a great idea. I think it turned out really good in the end.

RockOverdose.gr: I believe that you are very proud of him as a father.

Max: Zyon did the drums in the whole record, Igor's vocals on 'Bloodshed', it was really good to have them involved, we are a metal family, we have music in the house all the time and when I'm taking them on tour with me, they see no different, because they are raised on the road and they are playing music as well. It was good to have them on the record with me, for me as a father, these are very proud moments.

RockOverdose.gr: This time you had the luxury to work the songs at home with Zyon. How did that affect the whole recording process? What was the experience like to work the drums with your son?

Max: I think it made the album more prepared. I love all the other SOULFLY records. I think all of them are very strong. I had more time to prepare for 'Savages', because I had the chance to jam with Zyon at home. I was creating riffs in the morning and we jammed with Zyon in the afternoon, creating songs and recording them, putting them in order, finding out which ones are the strongest, which ones we felt that could really make an impact on the album. The process took about 2 months, jamming with Zyon for 2 months at home and when we entered the studio, we were really prepared, really tight. I was really prepared for this album and he knew exactly what to do. He knew every song by heart and it took him only 3 days to do the drums for the whole record, quite amazing.

RockOverdose.gr: Max, being yourself a riff master, who do you consider to be the biggest riff master in the universe and the biggest influence to you?

Max: My favorite is Tony Iommi. He created the best riffs in metal I think. Chuck Shuldiner from DEATH, wrote great riffs. Of course James Hetfield, early METALLICA was great. Dino from FEAR FACTORY is really great. I consider myself a riffman. I just do riffs, I don't do solos, that's what I like to do. I like to write riffs. I spend hours writing riffs at home. I use some of them in SOULFLY records and some of them in CAVALERA CONSPIRACY records. To me, it's pleasure writing riffs. It's fun to do it. I started a long time ago, when I got my guitar. It was me, the guitar and a 4 track machine and we created this music at home. It was a very good experience.

RockOverdose.gr: Let's go to CAVALERA CONSPIRACY and NAILBOMB. Are any future plans for these bands?

Max: Next year we will do a new record with Igor for CAVALERA CONSPIRACY. It's the 3rd album, I think it's going to be very strong, I wish to make a very fast album. I want Igor to play fast like 'Arise'.

RockOverdose.gr: So with CAVALERA CONSPIRACY, you show a side of your secret desires in music?

Max: Yes it's less complicated, the songs are not so long, they are shorter and I like the more brutal kind of metal that me and Igor are playing. That's what I like to explore in CAVALERA CONSPIRACY. The brothers playing metal and for me the golden era for me and Igor, is 'Beneath The Remains' and 'Arise'. I could say 'Chaos AD', but it's mostly 'Arise' and I like to be more in this area of fast. Igor is great when he plays fast, he's amazing and powerful and I can create the best riffs with him, like 'Inflikted' and stuff like that. We are going to continue that and hopefully it's going to be a very powerful record.

RockOverdose.gr: So talking about the first SEPULTURA period, which was really great and my favorite personally, is there something in the back of your mind for this band, or should we forget it?

Max: I have good memories from SEPULTURA, I created the band, I named the band, I started it years before Andreas and Paulo were in it. I created the band with Igor and we took it very far, we went against the world, we were considered the worse band in our city when we started, we took it very far. Until 'Roots'. I'm very proud for the work I did, but life is strange and full of turns and I believe that I was meant to create something new.

RockOverdose.gr: It's very sad that you created a great band and you are no longer a part of it. We are all sad about it. I was a big SEPULTURA fan.

Max: Yeah it's sad. I myself, sometimes think about it, why did this have to happen, but on the other hand, something very good happened to me, SOULFLY surviving. Most musicians that play in a successful band and they try to do something else, doesn't work, it fails. The fact that SOULFLY has survived and achieved this success around the world and have many fanatic fans and the fans are very expressive, they have SOULFLY tattoos and stuff, when they come and tell me that my music changed their lives, that's a big thing and I take it very seriously. When they say it to me, I'm thinking that I must be doing something right. I think SOULFLY is my salvation, they saved me, because when I quit SEPULTURA, it wa the hardest time of my life, the hardest moment, I didn't know what to do, I stopped playing music for six months, doing nothing, I was like what am I going to do with my life. SOULFLY saved me. The first album is a very strong album. It put me back on the map, rebuilt the trust with my fans again, showed that I could do something else outside of SEPULTURA, something powerful and now I have nine albums with SOULFLY, which is more than what I did with SEPULTURA.

RockOverdose.gr: Your country, Brazil, will organize both World Cup and the Olympic Games this year. Do you think that this will positive for your country, because in Greece we had major problems after this.

Max: In Brazil there are a lot of problems. A lot of protests. I don't know if you've seen it on the internet or TV. There are a lot of people, even young people, going out on the street, confronting the police and I have made a message here for the Brazilian people on the internet that had a lot of views, which is great, encouraging them to go and protest, go on the street. I myself, thing that it's too much to have 2 things to do. Maybe it would be better to do only one and do the Olympics maybe ten years from now. Not together like this. I think it's too much to handle. World Cup is huge. It's a worldwide event. You have to be a good host, because people will come from around the world to see this thing and they will have to feel safe. Brazil is not safe. It's very dangerous, they will have to do something about it and see what happens.

RockOverdose.gr: Several years ago, you visited Greece, in Athens and Thessaloniki. What do you think of the audience and the country in general? Are you going to come over in Greece again?

Max: I will come again. I think we have a European tour in March. It's gonna be a big European tour with DEVILDRIVER, co-headlining with them and I hope that will come again in Greece. I have great memories from Greece, I love the Greek crowd, I think it's an amazing crowd, very energetic, very passionate, very loud, full of energy and I think it's a beautiful country. It's beautiful to see the sites and the Acropolis and Thessaloniki and the drive is beautiful inside the country. We drove and saw all the beautiful houses and the blue water... very very beautiful. I actually told my wife that I like to buy a house in Greece one day and live in Greece. It's a great place to write music, it's beautiful. We talked a lot of times with my wife about the possibility of this to actually happen. It's not very far from reality. I hope one day we'll find a place in Greece and I can spend some time there and some time back in America.

RockOverdose.gr: So you travelled around the world and you hope that if you want some place to stay it's gong to be Greece.

Max: Yeah! I really love to.

RockOverdose.gr: Maybe Greek people are a lot like the Brazilians in attitude?

Max: Yes I think they are similar. It would be a great thing to do in the future.

RockOverdose.gr: What is the message that you like to leave to your Greek fans?

Max: The message is thank you, I hope they like 'Savages', it's coming out in October, I really enjoyed making the record, it's a special record, my first record with Nuclear Blast, a new label, a new beginning for me and I want to thank my fans for supporting me and following me through the years. I hope to see everybody in March in the big European tour and I hope Greece will be included in this tour, so we can bring our music to our fans. Thank you very much.

RockOverdose.gr: When the new video is going to be released? Do you have a release date?

Max: Probably in a month. It's being filmed right now and they have to put all the pieces together. I believe that it will be ready in a month for all the channels and for the people to find it.

RockOverdose.gr: Max thank you very much for this interview. Is there anything that we forgot to say? Any news to reveal?

Max: No, thank you man and I hope to see you in Greece.

RockOverdose.gr: Me too. And drink a lot of ouzo and beers!

Max: Yes! Alright!



For RockOverdose.gr: Zisis Petkanas









 
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Other acts already confirmed are Wishbone Ash featuring Andy Powell plus two of the finest bands to ever come out of Dunfermline...

aerosmith AEROSMITH BLUE ARMY TOUR 2015 SUMMER TREK TO KICK OFF JUNE 13th
Following their wildly successful and acclaimed 2014 Let Rock Rule tour, Aerosmith will return to the road June 13th...

accept ACCEPT ANNOUNCE NEW GUITARIST AND DRUMMER AND POST NEW VIDEO CLIP
Looking back on 2014, it was the best year in the band's career so far...

bernie torme BERNIE TORME ANNOUNCES 'BLACKHEART' NEW ALBUM AND TOUR SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 2015
"We did a storming little UK tour end of last year following the release of the 'Flowers & Dirt' album and I really caught the bug to play live again..."

behemoth BEHEMOTH RELEASE NEW VIDEO FOR 'MESSE NOIR' WITH PRODUCER ZEV DEANS
The combination of visual and auditory elements could not be more ideal...

conan CONAN ANNOUNCE UK HEADLINE TOUR IN JUNE
""As we gear up to record the follow up to 'Blood Eagle', we welcome you to join us on our only run of UK shows in 2015..."

muskel rock MUSKEL ROCK ANNOUNCES SPECIAL HEADLINERS
Let Them Eat Metal On Metal because there's Thunder On The Tundra at this year's Muskel Rock Festival in Sweden...

primus PRIMUS ANNOUNCE 'AN EVENING WITH PRIMUS' JUNE UK DATES
Primus are set to return to the UK for the first time since 2012 for three special shows...

babymetal BABYMETAL TO FINALLY RELEASE SELF-TITLED DEBUT ALBUM IN UK VIA earMUSIC
Babymetal are a divisive phenomena in the Metal world today...

ac/dc AC/DC OPEN ROCK OR BUST WORLD TOUR WITH SURPRISE SETLIST INCLUSIONS: WARNING - CONTAINS SPOILERS
The Rock Or Bust world tour resumes on April 17th during Coachella's second weekend before the band hit Europe in May...

six feet under SIX FEET UNDER ALL SET TO RELEASE THEIR ELEVENTH STUDIO ALBUM 'CRYPT OF THE DEVIL'
The band's eleventh studio recording boasts ten murderous slabs of audio repugnance...

gwar METAL BLADE TO RE-ISSUE GWAR's 'AMERICA MUST BE DESTROYED'
'America Must Be Destroyed' is definitely their "heaviest" album. The hardest vocals, and the hardest music...

black sabbath BREAKING NEWS: TONY IOMMI POSTS POSITIVE HEALTH UPDATE AFTER BLACK SABBATH PULL OUT OF OZZFEST
Sabbath have given no reason for their decision to pull out and Tony posted the following message just after 6.30 this evening...

twisted sister BREAKING NEWS: TWISTED SISTER ANNOUNCE AJ PERO TRIBUTE CONCERT, FAREWELL TOUR AND AJ'S REPLACEMENT
"Dee Snider and the boys made the decision last month to call it quits - just one week before drummer AJ Pero died from a heart attack."

patti russo PATTI RUSSO ALL SET FOR APRIL/MAY UK DATES
Patti Russo made her name as Meat Loaf's female lead vocalist between 1993 and 2013 and tonight she sets out on a set of April and May UK dates...

skyclad MARTIN WALKYIER GOES SKYCLAD ANNOUNCED AS BEERMAGEDDON SATURDAY NIGHT HEADLINER
"Once again we will witness Skyclad in it's true glory, as intended from conception, the Skyclad that impacted Metal like no incarnation since..."

iron maiden IRON MAIDEN CATALOGUE NOW MASTERED FOR ITUNES
"I honestly feel that there is a massive improvement in the quality of these classic albums..."

skid row JOHNNY SOLINGER LEAVES SKID ROW; REPLACEMENT NAMED ALREADY
"We had a lot of great times together and created a lot of great music. We wish him nothing but the best."

sos festival SOS FESTIVAL ANNOUNCES SIX MORE BANDS
Skarlett Riot, The Raven Age, 13 Stars, Heartbreak Remedy, Liz Owen & Charlotte Hackett are added to the loaded bill this July...

ginger GINGER WILDHEART ANNOUNCES "SONGS & WORDS TOUR" APRIL/MAY 2015
"This is a tale of redemption, self discovery and, ultimately, battling the odds and winning on my own terms..."

megadeth ANGRA GUITARIST KIKO LOUREIRO JOINS MEGADETH
He will be Megadeth's tenth guitarist in the band's thirty year history and he replaces the departed Chris Broderick...

odium CANADA'S ODIUM ISSUE STUDIO UPDATE AND OFFER FREE SONG DOWNLOAD
As the album comes together in the studio, Odium have no plans to slow down on the live performance front...

videscape VIDESCAPE IS THE NEW WAY FOR MUSICIANS TO MAKE MORE MONEY FROM VIDEOS AND AUDIO
VidEscape is perhaps not a site many musicians and bands are familiar with but all that could change in the coming months...

van halen VAN HALEN SHUT DOWN HOLLYWOOD BLVD FOR SPECIAL JIMMY KIMMEL LIVE PERFORMANCE
The band performed a forty five minute set to fans who were given free tickets to attend the outdoor event...

status quo STATUS QUO TO ROCK ROCHESTER CASTLE FOR A RECORD FIFTH TIME
The Quo will perform at the picturesque Norman castle grounds on Wednesday July 15th with support from Steve Harley And Cockney Rebel...

skarlett riot SKARLETT RIOT ANNOUNCE UK TOUR
Dubbed the 'We Will Rise' Tour to promote their new EP, 'We Are The Brave', the band will be joined on the trek by The Raven Age...

whitesnake BREAKING NEWS: DEF LEPPARD/WHITESNAKE/BLACK STAR RIDERS ANNOUNCE DECEMBER UK TOUR
Tickets go on sale at 10.00am on 1st April from Live Nation UK with pre-sale and VIP ticketing information coming soon...

doro DORO CONFIRMED FOR ROCK IN RIO AND ANNOUNCES HUGE EUROPEAN TOUR
"This is amazing and a dream coming true. I think that we might also play my hymn 'All We Are'."...

wasp W.A.S.P. SIGN TO NAPALM RECORDS WITH NEW ALBUM SET FOR RELEASE THIS AUGUST
Almost six years have passed since the world saw a new studio album from Metal icons W.A.S.P...

evil scarecrow EVIL SCARECROW SET OFF FOR 'ROAD TO DOWNLOAD' TOUR
Grab the chance to catch the Nottingham maestros of Metal around the UK before their appearance at Download...

bruce dickinson IRON MAIDEN ISSUE BRUCE DICKINSON HEALTH UPDATE AS NEW PHOTOS OF BRUCE EMERGE
Things are looking very positive concerning the Bruce Dickinson cancer situation...

iron maiden IRON MAIDEN TO RECEIVE O2 SILVER CLEF AWARD
The iconic band have won the Outstanding Contribution To UK Music category...

the darkness THE DARKNESS REVEAL FIRST SINGLE 'OPEN FIRE'
The single and the forthcoming album 'Last Of Our Kind' promise an explosion of rock following the band's break ...

thunder THUNDER APPEAR ON WEEKEND WOGAN BBC RADIO SHOW
Thunder's new album 'Wonder Days' went straight into the Top Ten of the UK album charts and they have just completed a highly successful UK tour...

aj pero BANDMATES AND STARS PAY TRIBUTE TO TWISTED SISTER AND ADRENALINE MOB DRUMMER AJ PERO
Pero was on tour with Adrenaline Mob when members of that band were unable to rouse him on their bus on Friday morning...

red dragon cartel RED DRAGON CARTEL NAME MICHAEL THOMAS BECK IN LEAD VOCALIST CHANGE UP
Darren James Smith is out, and a new era begins. The saga continues...

walls of jericho WALLS OF JERICHO ARE ENTERING THE STUDIO
The band will start work shortly on their first full length album since 2008...

beyond forgotton shores DORMANT INFERNO & DIONYSUS ANNOUNCE SPLIT RELEASE 'BEYOND FORGOTTEN SHORES'
India's Transcending Obscurity label produces a Doom Metal double...

icon I.C.O.N SIGN TO METALBOX RECORDINGS
With a follow up album to 'New Born Lie' on the way and an extensive touring schedule, 2015 sees I.C.O.N in full flow...

soldierfield SOLDIERFIELD RELEASE OFFICIAL VIDEO FOR 'THE ONLY WAR'
The video is from the latest acclaimed release 'Catharsis'...

serpentine SERPENTINE ANNOUNCE THE RELEASE OF THEIR ALBUM 'CIRCLE OF KNIVES'
The new studio album contains ten brand new songs from the melodic rock quintet...

rival sons RIVAL SONS HAVE RECORDED EXCLUSIVE RECORD STORE DAY TRACKS
The limited edition 7" contains two previously unreleased songs...

styx STYX RELEASE 'LIVE AT THE ORLEANS ARENA LAS VEGAS'
The definitive live show is available on DVD, CD, Blu-ray and digital formats...

electric wizard ELECTRIC WIZARD CONFIRM FULL SUPPORTING CAST FOR HEADLINE SHOW AT THE ROUNDHOUSE IN LONDON
The Cosmic Dead, Purson and Moss are added to the May 15th bill...

mike porcaro MIKE PORCARO OF TOTO DEAD AT 59
The rock world was shook again on Sunday morning, March 15th 2015...

sick of it all SICK OF IT ALL LAUNCH NEW VIDEO FOR 'GET BRONX'
"This video serves to show people across the world that as gritty and unpretentious as hardcore music is, it still translates to the big stage and doesn't need a tiny, intimate atmosphere to work..."

steve hackett STEVE HACKETT LAUNCHES 'THE WHEEL'S TURNING' LYRIC VIDEO
"In contrast to the primal and gothic nature of much of the album, 'The Wheel's Turning' has a fun and nostalgic vibe..."

corbitt WARBEAST'S BRUCE CORBITT ISSUES UPDATE FOLLOWING HIS HEART SCARE
Bruce has been undergoing tests and has an important message to share...

enter shikari ENTER SHIKARI ANNOUNCE INTIMATE DOWNLOAD FESTIVAL WARM-UP SHOW
Catch the band at Bristol in June before their slot headlining Download's second stage...

tony iommi TONY IOMMI, NAPALM DEATH AND LAMB OF GOD APPEAL TO INDONESIAN PRESIDENT FOR BALI NINE DUO CLEMENCY
All artists are hopeful that their words will be persuasive and encourage President Widodo to grant clemency...

serpentyne MEDIEVAL FOLK ROCKERS SERPENTYNE UNLEASH NEW VIDEO FOR 'VALKYRIES'
Over the last few years their live show has become quite the spectacle...

tank TANK REVEAL ALBUM ARTWORK FOR 'VALLEY OF TEARS'
"He's injected so much new energy and inspiration into the band since joining us in 2013..."

mike portnoy MIKE PORTNOY IN MEGA "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM" MOMENT AFTER HAVING TO WAIT AT HOSPITAL
However well intended, the post comes across as though he is expecting to jump the queue due to his "status"...

armored saint ARMORED SAINT TO RELEASE NEW ALBUM THIS SUMMER
"There's everything from classic Armored Saint rocker songs to epic songs and we all dug deep deliver something special..."

david gilmour DAVID GILMOUR ANNOUNCES 2015 SHOWS
The dates will coincide with the release of his as yet untitled fourth solo studio album...


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