metal talk
facebook
Type band name, album name, artists name etc here...
Search all our articles by typing band name, album name, artists name etc here...
news now
metal talk




  SCOTT ADAMS: TERROR AUSTRALIS

INTERVIEW WITH SHAI HULUD


scott adams

Pin It
Share |


I meet ShaiHulud guitarist Matt Fox at the Melbourne instalment of 2013's Soundwave festival. After we swap mutually admiring comments on one another's top-half attire (me resplendent in an Angel Witch shirt, he rocking a particularly splendid MDC number) it's time to get down to business.

And, as the affable six stringer settles down at our sundrenched interview bench I remark that I myself can't find anything but good things to say about new album Reach Beyond the Sun, and nor, it would seem, does anyone else – what about you, Matt – you pleased with it?

"Yes, mostly. I mean, it takes me a while to be happy with anything but I'm probably more happy with this one than a lot of the records we've done in a long time. So yes. But it depends how I'm listening to it. If I'm listening to it casually – if someone else has it on – I can appreciate it. But if I decide to listen to it myself…I'll pick out all the flaws and what might be inconsequential to someone else to me sounds like a glaring mistake. So I try not to give too much attention to it, otherwise I focus on what I think are the problems."

Article continues below...

   


The record to me sounds like the quintessential (if that's not too grandiose a word to use here) Shai Hulud album. If somebody came to me and hadn't heard you before I could play them this record and it seems like there's something of everything about you in it. Would you agree with that?

"Yes, I think that's a good way to see it. And that was the goal. We wanted this album to be very varied from the outset. So that's always cool when you have a plan or a mission and you accomplish it. That doesn't happen to us very often! We managed to incorporate a lot of different sounds that we've touched on in the past and get them all on record. So yes, if I had to give somebody the quote-unquote 'quintessential' – not to use that word again- record, it would be this one. To introduce us to somebody else, it would be this one."

How does that come about then, how does Reach Beyond the Sun become that record? What are the circumstances that allow you to reach this point? Is it Chad (Gilbert, the band's long departed vocalist, now of New Found Glory, who returned to sing on this record) coming back?

"You mean the varied nature of the record? That had nothing to do with Chad. It was the goal for a while and I think it had a lot to do with the albums in the past, which I don't think ever fully nailed what we wanted to do. You know, on the first album (1997s 'Hearts Once Nourished With Hope And Compassion') we were kids, and a lot of the stuff was worked out the night before... you know we didn't know what the hell we were doing!

"On the second album ('That Within Blood Ill-Tempered' from 2003) we'd learned a lot about music; and we put everything on it, we slaved over every note. Similarly on the third album (the 2008 effort 'Misanthropy Pure') we had a goal to be extremely harsh and pissed; Not only on the songs but in the spaces between the songs!... everything had to be (and at this point Fox starts punching his right fist into his left palm) extremely harsh and pissed sounding.

"So on all the albums we had all these goals... and the goal for each album was coming on the tail of the record before it, it was pre-determined by the record before it. All of that said, when we came to do this album we took a step back and said 'what is it we are trying to do? Our bass player, who wasn't in the studio with us when we did 'Misanthropy Pure'... the guy that produced it (Greg Thomas) and myself, when left to our own devices we'd get out our protractors and start saying 'this isn't harsh enough, it's not tricky enough' so we'd take what would normally be a normal Shai Hulud song and we turned it into what became 'Misanthropy Pure', which was a lot more technical, quite a few shades away from what we really are.

"And so this time – and I hope I'm answering your question with all of this – our bass player Matthew Fletcher said let's just be ourselves. Let's write things and not think they aren't tricky enough, don't worry that it's not smart enough, which is a problem I have with this stuff.

"Because when I write something, you know, I know what a moron I am so when I write a guitar part I think it can't be ready to go, know what I mean? So if I'm writing something I need to spend time on it because I know that there are a lot of people who care about ShaiHulud's music and I want to give them the best. So that's my take on it. When I write I don't just fart something out and say here you go everybody. I tend to want to work on it.

"And I guess if there was any one circumstance it was all of us deciding not to overwork and overwrite everything. Let's pull from all the styles of riffs we write. There were a couple of songs that were going to go on the record that ended up being left off because they were too similar. They'll end up on another record. And that's roughly – if you can understand anything I just said – how we came to decide upon the content and the approach to 'Reach Beyond The Sun'."

Do you find that a painful process?

"I find everything painful. Actually, joking aside, that's not the painful part, that's actually quite fun, sifting through the material, deciding which songs go on the record... almost every other part of recording the album was painful but that part was pretty cool."

Well, the record is out now, however painful it's gestation period was – are you happy with the response to it so far?

"I can't even believe it. I'm not expecting we'll be the biggest band ever, or that things are going to suddenly change for us but I don't think I've seen such anoverwhelmingly positive response for anything we've ever done. I don't know if I should really admit this... but I don't even know how genuine it is. I know how people are, certain bands can fart or shit something out and it gets hailed as genius..."

There's a lot of that going on at this very festival!

"There's a lot of that going on everywhere, all the time! So I'm thinking did that happen to us? Did the right few periodicals hear it ahead of time, really liked it and everyone else kind of fell in line? So, I hope it's all genuine, I hope everyone really did listen to the album and came away thinking this is great! It's always nice to have someone be nice to you and like I said I don't think anything we've ever done has received this many kind comments, flattering comments, but if they are sincere or not I'm extremely grateful!"

When you have those concerns it all boils down to how the people who pay to see you live are enjoying it doesn't it? Presumably the punters are enjoying what they are hearing?

"Oh yes. Live we're terrible though. I'm just kidding. I'm kind of kidding – you see that's the trouble with the music industry, you're not allowed to tell the truth. Everybody yells at me and says 'don't tell the truth!'

You're laughing whilst you say this of course, but it actually touches on a few things that you yourself said in a questionnaire I read that you amswered, 'My 2012'.

"I'm not sure if I remember exactly what I wrote."

Well amongst other things you commented on the insidious nature of 'our industry' and you were effusive in your praise of (Accept guitarist) Wolf Hoffmann and (Testament axe God) Alex Skolnick.

"Oh, now I remember!"

So how does this dissatisfaction with the status quo not just turn you into a jaded old hack, given your concerns? I know you don't want to go overboard about how pleased you are with the reaction to the album, but how do you react to people who've said you were rubbish in the past turning round and saying 'this is great!?

"That's a good question! You do get pretty annoyed. Jaded is a word I try and stay away from simply because it's so prevalent. I think after about the age of twenty eight, whether you're like it or not, whether you are or not, you're considered jaded. So I try not to go with that word, but for years I feel we've been overlooked, I feel like we've been set aside. And it doesn't make me jaded, but it annoys me, and It pisses me off because I know how much the band cares, how much truth, mind, heart and energy we put into every record, so why this one?

"Going back to what we said is this one better than the others? Maybe it is. I hope so because it's my favourite thus far. And there's also the aspect of Chad Gilbert coming back. Next time, will we write our best album yet and the reaction is 'aaahh... I preferred 'Reach Beyond The Sun'?

"I'm not the kind of guy who gets jaded. We've been pretty much overlooked ever since the band began and that will never quell the excitement of a new good riff. A new good riff is always a new good riff, and you still get excited the first time you play it, the first time it's committed to tape. When the purity of the music is there, you can't be jaded. Unless of course you are in music for the wrong reasons which ShaiHulud is not. I hope that answers your question."

It has. Thank you. But I've got one more, and even though I'm reasonably sure I know what part of the answer is I'm going to answer it. It's the ubiquitous festival lineup question – given the chance to programme the top five bands at next year's Soundwave, who would you pick? I'm guessing Accept might be one of them...

"Well, I don't know that I would have thought of it on the fly... I love old Accept, but I hate to say it – sorry Udo fans - but man, new Accept is just FUCKING KILLING! I can't even listen to 'Restless And Wild' anymore because 'Stalingrad' and 'Blood Of The Nations' are incredible."

Even when Mark Tornillo was in TT Quick he had a great voice.

"I'm not familiar with TT Quick."

Ah, well, they were a New York based hard rock band in the eighties. There's a track on their 'Metal Of Honor' album, 'Child Of Sin', where he sounds exactly like Udo. I don't know whether someone slipped that album to Wolf and said 'he's your man'.

"Well I don't know about that but to answer your question, since you brought it up yes! Let's say Accept, let's say Testament, let's say Propagandhi – one of my favourites – let's say MDC – are they still around?"

It doesn't matter. They'll reform for you.

"Will Freddie Mercury come back from the dead?"

Yes.

"Ok, Queen, the Dead Milkmen, Megadeth would be up there – oh, wait, you know who would be great? Candlemass!

A great way to end, I'm sure you'll agree. I did want to talk a little about Fox's beloved New Jersey pizzas, but time as ever was not the friend of this humble interviewer, and it'll have to wait for next time – but it will be talked about, I promise!


15.4.13


More Scott Adams right here.





Pin It
Share |







 

zakk wylde ZAKK WYLDE TO RELEASE 'BOOK OF SHADOWS II' ON APRIL 8 2016
Wylde's first solo release for 20 years will be followed by a wave of tour dates to be announced soon...

status quo STATUS QUO TO RELEASE ANOTHER TRIO OF DELUXE EDITION ALBUMS
These carefully curated special releases are to be issued by Universal Music on Friday 25th March...

hrh doom stoner HRH DOOM vs HRH STONER ANNOUNCE MORE BANDS
Angel Witch, Electric Citizen and Black Spiders head up another batch to be added for this October...

the defiled THE DEFILED ANNOUNCE RESCHEDULED UK HEADLINE TOUR FOR MAY
The Defiled will play as support to In This Moment, also in May...

rich robinson RICH ROBINSON RELEASES REISSUES AND NEW ALBUM
The four re-imagined albums include previously unreleased tracks and penned essays from Robinson himself...

crowbar CROWBAR ANNOUNCE EUROPEAN TOUR DATES
The run of twenty dates includes a UK appearance at Desertfest...

ben poole BEN POOLE CONFIRMS NEW ALBUM 'TIME HAS COME' AND UK TOUR
"I hope it'll please the blues-rock guitar fans, but also have the depth and maturity to appeal to an audience beyond that..."

desertfest DESERTFEST BERLIN 2016'S LINE-UP IS ALMOST COMPLETE
The first running order has been released, along with a limited number of day passes...

anneke van giersbergen DUTCH LEGEND ANNEKE VAN GIERSBERGEN BRINGS HER ACOUSTIC SHOW TO THE UK
Six solo dates in April have been arranged before Anneke returns to the studio...

hard rock hell HARD ROCK HELL X ANNOUNCE FIRST 15 BANDS
Ugly Kid Joe, Ratt, Glenn Hughes and Living Colour head the vanguard for this year's 10th anniversary...

space elevator SPACE ELEVATOR LAUNCH PLEDGE CAMPAIGN FOR SECOND ALBUM
There are a number of exclusive offers for Pledgers, including the chance to perform on the album...

valerian VALERIAN TO RELEASE 'STARDUST REVELATION' ALBUM
With a burgeoning Metal scene in Indonesia, the band have been working hard on their first full length album...

terry horbury vardis A MEMORIAL CONCERT AND BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR TERRY HORBURY OF VARDIS WILL TAKE PLACE ON 6TH FEBRUARY 2016
The unmissable event features a host of very special guests and all proceeds will go to Terry's chosen charity...

status quo STATUS QUO ANNOUNCE THE END OF ELECTRIC SHOWS
"There's more to come from us in the years ahead, but we won't tour the electric set ever again..."

toseland TOSELAND ANNOUNCE NEW ALBUM 'CRADLE THE RAGE' & MARCH TOUR
Support for the ten date UK tour comes from Colour Of Noise...

bonfire BONFIRE CELEBRATE 30TH ANNIVERSARY WITH NEW DOUBLE ALBUM 'PEARLS'
The classics are being re-recorded in Italy, with completely new arrangements...

hostile HOSTILE ANNOUNCE NEW ALBUM PRODUCED BY KK DOWNING PLUS EUROPEAN TOUR DATES
'The New World Disorder' is set for release via Gasworks Music and will be available on March 1st 2016...

rambliin man GINGER BAKER'S AIRFORCE 3, SEBASTIAN BACH AND THE CADILLAC THREE AMONG THE LATEST BATCH OF NAMES TO BE ANNOUNCED FOR RAMBLIN' MAN FAIR
Purson, Inglorious and The Zombies will also join the Kent festival this coming July...

the enid THE ENID RELEASE DUST ON 1ST APRIL
'Dust' is the final part of the stunning trilogy following 'Journey's End' and 'Invicta' and will be performed around the UK over the coming months...

sanguine EXCLUSIVE: SANGUINE PREMIERE VIDEO FOR 'SAVE ME' PRIOR TO RELEASE OF SECOND ALBUM 'BLACK SHEEP'
The sci-fi spectacular is directed by Tyson Wade Johnston and its premiere can be seen exclusively on MetalTalk right here...

steelhouse festival STEELHOUSE FESTIVAL ANNOUNCES MORE BANDS
Hey! Hello! featuring Ginger Wildheart, Blues Pills and Vega have been added to the line-up of this year's Steelhouse Festival in Hafod-y-Dafal in Wales...

jeff healey PROVOGUE RELEASE LOST JEFF HEALEY ALBUM TO COMMEMORATE HIS 50TH BIRTHDAY
These tracks were painstakingly restored and brought to life bringing into focus Jeff's unique and special gifts as an artist...

heretic order THE HERETIC ORDER UNLEASH VIDEO FOR 'THE DEATH RIDE BLUES'
The Heretic Order have announced a co-headlining UK tour in February with I.C.O.N...

mortiis MORTIIS ANNOUNCE UK HEADLINE TOUR
"It's about time we came back to the UK for some shows. See you in May, you bastards..."

zoax ZOAX ANNOUNCE SPECIAL ONE OFF LONDON SHOW
Catch Zoax in Camden on February 23rd where they will premiere some new songs...

antimatter ANTIMATTER ANNOUNCE RARE UK DATES
Antimatter will play two further dates on 'The Judas Tour' in Bristol and Manchester in March...

jimmy bain JIMMY BAIN PASSES AWAY AGED 68
Ex-Dio and Rainbow and current Last In Line bass player Jimmy Bain has sadly passed away aged 68...

rhapsody of fire RHAPSODY OF FIRE WILL COME TO INDONESIA FOR THE FIRST TIME
On the 'In To The Legend Asian Tour 2016', Rhapsody of Fire will stop in Jakarta on March 8th 2016...

steven tyler AEROSMITH'S STEVEN TYLER ANNOUNCES NEW SINGLE 'RED, WHITE & YOU'
Steven Tyler continues his foray into country music and reveals his latest track...

the treatment THE TREATMENT ANNOUNCE APRIL /MAY UK TOUR
The Amorettes will be special guests on all fourteen UK dates...

soto SOTO TO RELEASE SECOND ALBUM ON 1ST APRIL 2016
Soto will debut live during Feb 2016 with a string of East Coast US dates and a European debut in April with a short run through selected cities and countries...

temperance movement HEAR THE TEMPERANCE MOVEMENT LIVE AND ACOUSTIC AT DEEZER, PARIS
The band dropped into Deezer headquarters during a stop on their current tour promoting new album 'White Bear'...

jezabels CANCER TREATMENT FORCES THE JEZABELS TO CANCEL WORLD TOUR
"The band means so much to me, and cancelling the tour has been a very sad decision. I am hopeful that in the near future we will be back on the road again playing music we love..."

thunder THUNDER ANNOUNCE INTIMATE SHOW AT LONDON'S 100 CLUB
All ticket-sale profits will be going to Childline/NSPCC. Tickets for the special one-off show go on sale on 22nd January...

freddy lim HEAVY METAL STAR ELECTED TO PARLIAMENT IN HISTORIC VICTORY
Freddy Lim, the long-haired, tattooed front man of Taiwanese Black Metal band Chthonic wins a seat in parliament...

hrh doom stoner HRH ANNOUNCE NEW DOOM & STONER SHEFFIELD TRIP
Candlemass, Orange Goblin, Torche and Raging Speedhorn lead the vanguard for HRH's new event...

the mission THE MISSION ANNOUNCE 30TH ANNIVERSARY TOUR
The tour starts in Dublin on October 1st and includes O2 Shepherds Bush Empire in London on October 8th...

cop uk NEW ALBUM FROM C.O.P. UK 'NO PLACE FOR HEAVEN' IS OUT ON 29TH JANUARY
C.O.P. UK will immediately follow the release by hitting the road for a European tour with Helloween...

thin lizzy THIN LIZZY ANNOUNCE 2016 ANNIVERSARY SHOWS: MOTÖRHEAD DRUMMER MIKKEY DEE JOINS BAND
2016 is a year that includes a couple of important anniversaries in the history of Thin Lizzy...

joe bonamassa JOE BONAMASSA RELEASES NEW ALBUM 'BLUES OF DESPERATION' IN MARCH 2016
"You'll hear the proverbial trains, mountains, valleys and other blues references about heartbreak and loneliness, but there are also some poignant moments..."

cairo son CAIRO SON 'STORM CLOUDS' ALBUM LAUNCH SHOW CONFIRMED
The launch party will be held at Nambucca on March 18th...

stormbringer STORMBRINGER ADD NEW DATES TO FEBRUARY SHOWS SUPPORTING THEIR NEW ALBUM 'BLOOD AND RUST'
Check out the dates plus the videos for 'Bad Blood' and 'Rust' right here...

sanguine SANGUINE UNLEASH THEIR VEGAS SPECTACULAR WITH NEW VIDEO FOR 'PRETTY GIRL'
"The lyrics reflect my frustration that women are not meant to be both pretty and strong...but it's more of a 'fuck you' than a complaint..."

glenn frey GLENN FREY OF THE EAGLES PASSES AWAY AGED 67
Glenn Frey, the founder member and guitarist of The Eagles has sadly checked out...

dale griffin MOTT THE HOOPLE DRUMMER DALE GRIFFIN PASSES AWAY AGED 67
Dale "Buffin" Griffin was a founder member of Mott The Hoople and prolific session producer...

stiff little fingers STIFF LITTLE FINGERS ANNOUNCE UK TOUR DATES FOR FEBRUARY/MARCH 2016
Support will come from Ricky Warwick & The Fighting Hearts ...

inglorious INGLORIOUS CONFIRMED FOR SWEDEN'S STOCKHOLM ROCKS FESTIVAL 2016
Inglorious and Grand Magus are the first bands to be announced for 2016...

wishing well WISHING WELL FEATURING GRAHAM BONNET RELEASE 'HIPPIE HEART GYPSY SOUL'
"We wanted something extra to boost the album and when we wrote 'Hippie' we instantly realized that Graham would be a perfect vocalist for the song in many ways..."

sabaton SABATON REVEAL THE OFFICIAL LIVE VIDEO FOR 'RESIST AND BITE' TAKEN FROM FORTHCOMING LIVE RELEASE
"We recorded two shows in case one is not enough for you..."

babymetal BABYMETAL ANNOUNCE NEW ALBUM TITLE
'Metal Resistance' is released worldwide on April 1st before their headline Wembley show the next day...

motorhead MOTÖRHEAD: THE TRAIN KEEPS A-ROLLIN'
We hope to see Phil and Mikkey back in full-time action as soon as possible, as well as Fast Eddie...

evil scarecrow EVIL SCARECROW RELEASE THEIR BRILLIANTLY BONKERS LYRIC VIDEO FOR 'END LEVEL BOSS'
The fan favourite will finally appear in the live show for the remaining shows of the 'Boldly Going Anywhere!' tour...

life of agony LIFE OF AGONY SIGN WORLDWIDE DEAL WITH NAPALM RECORDS
'A Place Where There's No More Pain' will be released later in 2016...

metal church METAL CHURCH ANNOUNCE TRACK LISTING AND COVER ARTWORK FOR NEW ALBUM 'XI'
The band's 11th studio release marks the return of legendary vocalist and front man Mike Howe...

twisted sister NEW EUROPEAN RELEASE DATE AND NEW COVER ARTWORK REVEALED FOR THE MOVIE 'WE ARE TWISTED F*CKING SISTER!'
The documentary is a mesmerizing and wickedly funny story of a 10 year odyssey to overnight success...

saxon SAXON TO RELEASE 9 ALBUM VINYL BOX SET
This spectacular package is a must have for Saxon fans and collectors and will be released in March...

wildfire festival WILDFIRE FESTIVAL 2016 ANNOUNCE DAY SPLITS
Saturday night headliners, running order and set times for Scotland's premier rock and Metal festival will be announced in February...

black stone cherry BLACK STONE CHERRY TO PLAY CHARITY GIG AT THE BORDERLINE ON JANUARY 24th
All proceeds of this special appearance will go to The Teenage Cancer Trust...

trivium TRIVIUM ANNOUNCE UK TOUR WITH SOME SURPRISING CHOICES OF VENUE
None of the regular main cities like London, Birmingham, Manchester or Glasgow are included on this jaunt...

yes YES TO TOUR UK AND EUROPE IN APRIL
The set will include 1971's 'Fragile' and 1980's 'Drama' in their entirety...

blind guardian BLIND GUARDIAN ANNOUNCE UK AND IRELAND TOUR IN MAY
Blind Guardian will be playing a spellbinding 150 minute long set every night – these shows are not to be missed...

fish farewell FISH ANNOUNCES APRIL HEADLINE TOUR DUE TO PHENOMENAL DEMAND
Another final chance to see 'Misplaced Childhood' in full following the recent sold out run and including the rescheduled European shows...

morgoth MORGOTH ANNOUNCE EUROPEAN TOUR WITH INCANTATION
Be sure not to miss this killer package of total Death Metal sovereignty...

iron maiden IRON MAIDEN TO TOUR CHINA FOR FIRST TIME IN THEIR CAREER
Iron Maiden will visit China in April 2016, once their set list has been submitted for approval from the Ministry Of Culture...

3 doors down 3 DOORS DOWN ANNOUNCE NEW ALBUM 'US AND THE NIGHT' OUT MARCH 11th
"It's truly been a labour of love and we can't wait to get these songs out to our fans around the world..."

prong PRONG RELEASE NEW ALBUM ON FEBRUARY 5th
'X – No Absolutes' is packed with the band's trademark driving riffs and pinpoint-precise grooves...

skarlett riot SKARLETT RIOT HEAD OUT ON TOUR WITH DEVILSKIN
Skarlett Riot will be main support to Devilskin for six UK dates in February...

metal talk
© All written site content is copyright MetalTalk.net 2008-2015, unless otherwise stated, and is not to be used without prior permission.
Ads raid data recovery